Learnings from BMC Elections
Responses Received
96 | There are many things that citizens can do, must do, must not avoid doing it. Eternal vigilance of the working of the Corporation and individual councillors and many other but essential things. Can wqe form a group of citizens to look after these aspects globally and locally? We do not ned emailers only but workers to work on the ground. Best wishes.
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97 | Re: What have been your learnings from the Mumbai civic elections?
I feel Mumbaiites are nincompoop.Despite the 26/7 calamity, worst road In fact I have been hinting at scrapping BMC altogether and outsource C R Ramakrishnan
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98 | From: P M Ravindran
Dear Mr Vinay Somani
Thank you for inviting me to participate in an important task like election reforms. I have the following suggestions:
– The candidates, instead of being made to deposit security deposits, should be made to fulfill certain qualitiative requirements like: minimum educational qualification(could be SSLC pass), certain online certifications in logic and application (if we don’t have them, we should introduce them. But certain organisations like Brainbench already have tests to meet various requirements)
– they should be self supporting (should have independent sources of income for their livelihood) and as a representative of the people should be paid only honorariums and cost to meet the expenses in attending to the process of legislation.
-they should not have any criminal background to the extent that they should NOT be involved in any court cases whatsoever, except petty cases and that too in not more than three cases overall.
– they should NOT have any power to interfere directly with govt administration. In other words, they should be eyes and ears of the people to provide feedback about implementation of policies and bring in legislation for removing bottle necks. Poor performance of administrators/govt officials should only be reported to appropriate monitoring bodies for corrective action as per transparent procedures.
-There should be a common electoral roll for all elections. The smallest constituency unit may be considered to be a building block.
– There is already a provision for NO Choice to be provided in the ballots. It has to be implemented. And if that scores the maximum votes, the constituency should be administered by a person appointed by the Governor/President from a panel of eminent apolitical persons in that constituency.
– There should be a practical procedure for recalling elected representatives. In the local bodies, it should be enough if 51% of the electorate sign a memorandum, in case of non-performance. Or, if the member gets into a criminal case also he/she should be presumed to have demitted office and for the rest of the period an eminent person can be nominated. For state legislatures and parliament, the next lower level of elected representatives should be able to submit a memoradum for their removal. For example, for an MLA, the elected members of the local bodies falling in his/her constituency should vote in their respective bodies to recall the MLA. If more than 50% of the members vote to recall the MLA he/she should be presumed to have been recalled. In this case however, during the same poll, members of the local bodies may elect a new MLA also. Strictly speaking, this method of indirect elections may be made, ab initio, to state legislatures and Parliament also.
Regards and best wishes
Ravi
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99 | From: Susmita Mitra
Subject: Re: election responses compiled
Dear Mr. Somani
I appreceate the compilations of all opinions and the role of NGOs done. I agree first of all that it is the duty of an individual to get involved and if neccessary protest to make things better . This is a very good effort. I wish all success to the involved NGOS. All the very best.
Susmita Mitra- CPAA.
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100 | Name : RD Shenoy Organisation (if any) : Email : shenoyrd@… Telephone : 26313832 Subject : compulsory voting Me! ssage : 1.Voting must be made mandatory 2. If made mandatory, then a column for protest vote must be included. 3. if the protest vote wins then the electiion should be held again and the candidates in the first election should be barred from contesting the election at least subsequest three elections. |
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101 | Re: What have been your learnings from the Mumbai civic elections?
From: G.C. Mathur I am not the resident of Mumbai. However, my observations from the various responses reported in the Digests is that people have not appreciated the ideology of the ‘Centre’, i.e., neutrality avoiding extremes of the rightists and leftists, on the one part and good governance of democracy that demands judicious distribution of resources without any prejudices of caste, colour, and religion. What I observe is that religion has been given too much space, which is contrary to democracy being fundamentalistic.
G. C. Mathur
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102 | From: Anand Kanekar – IBH
Read my response in BRACKET. —– 1. If you did not vote in the BMC Elections, why? What would have made you personally vote?(Not applicable as I voted ).
2. What all can be done to get people to vote? (Working employees to lose half a day pay for not voting. Employer to be penalisied for missing the voting. There needs to be provision in constitution.)
3. What action should be taken to prevent buying of votes?(Agile local area citizens groups to be formed with protection from law enforcing authorities ).
4. What are you complaints or suggestions regarding: – manifestos – are they realistic; how to hold parties to account?( BAN THIS LEGALLY.) – election code of conduct, time schedule, fairness, etc.? (IT IS IN ORDER AS OF NOW ) – candidate’s profiles, details, etc?(By law, only literate citizen be made eligible to contest.Candidate to account for source of income with details between two ecection periods ) – voter’s list accuracy, registration, easy access, etc?(Correction facility be provided on net. Automatic deletion to take place once death certificate is issued.)
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103 | From: Leena Prabhoo
Dear Vinay,
There were a lot of requests from various news papers to go and check our names in the voters lists but none of them mentioned the place where we could do the needful. I went to check my name in the voters list in Dec. 2006 at Tank Road, Santacruz W, which has been the place for all these years to do the checking. The place had a deserted look and there was no one there to guide us. There was a small chit of paper, half torn, pasted on a card board dangling from a pole on a tree, mentioning the address where we could check the names.
To locate this new place, it took me 10-12 days. The place was in Irla, possibly the remotest part of Irla, where only a determined person could find the place. My name was not along with those in my building but a few pages after. This whole process was extremely tiring and frustrating. I don’t think Election Commissions office wants to make it easy for lay people to register or check their names in the voters list.
Thanking you,
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104 | From: janki doshi
My name is Janki Doshi and I am a law student.On the eve of elections the political parties issue a small paper where they mention where to vote and I also got one such a card.I went for voting at the place mentioned and they said to me that I must have photo identity proof.After that I went back home got my railway pass and asked them to let me vote.But they did not let me vote and said that my name was deleted from the list. My question is that whose duty it is to issue these election cards?Isn’t the government responsible for this?If they ask for photo identity then why have they stopped issuing election cards to the newly registered voters?This is ridiculous.The government cribs that no one is coming out of their houses to vote then why can’t we have a more user friendly system of voting?If this is the way the system works then why should we take the pain to come and vote? Our constitution clearly mentions about PROTEST VOTE which is enshrined in article 49-O of the constitution but unfortunately the people sitting at the polling booth have no idea about this.Is the kind of knowledge the government officials have about the laws? There should be trained officers sitting at the polling booth to guide the citizens about the voting procedure.The government must issue election cards to each and every registered voter and also must issue slips before the election mentioning which is the place where a person is supposed to vote.Instead of filling their own pockets with crores of rupees they must utilize the tax payers money in issuing election cards and not make an excuse that they do not have money for the same.Lastly atleast one polling officer must be taught about the voting procedure and provisions like protest vote. Yours truly, Janki.B.Doshi
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105 | From: gopal v
I would like to make few more general suggestions. The parties and the candidates elected to the Municipal Corporation are experienced and they are fully aware of the various problems faced by the citizens and their desires from the civic administration. The following steps may perhaps help in systematic analysis and solution to the various problems.
1. Though the Cooperators may have known the various problems before the election, it is desirable for them to visit each and every part of their area, see for themselves the real position and the needs. For this matter the Cooperators could take the assistance of the local people.
2. Study the problems and arrive at the possible solutions in the best interest of all the citizens.
3. Draw plans of action. Discuss the problems with the local Municipal authorities take them into confidence and arrive as to what best could be done.
4. Where solutions are not forthcoming or not according to their expectations from the local authority, discuss with the Higher ups in the Municipal Cooperation along with the party and thrash out the issues.
5. Go to the people take them into confidence about the need for improvements and development and announce the plans that could be implemented.
6. One of the major problems for development is the slums and other activities being carried on. Relocation of activities and redevelopment of slums fully is also the need of the hour. Identify areas in the vicinity for such development and move the authorities for acceptance of good programmes.
7. Fix time frame for the implementation of various decision taken. Constantly review the progress and take steps with the help of the authorities to solve the difficulties.
8. Discuss freely with the citizens of each area about the various issues regularly.
9. For successful implementation of the various facilities, the main hurdle is litigation. This should be stopped. I feel that there should an informal discussion with the Judiciary abut the need for improvement in the overall interest and try to find solutions as to how litigation could be prevented or not accepted. If necessary with consultation of the Judiciary, draw rules for this purpose.
10. The last and very important issue is that of vigilance and proper and strict monitoring of the use of various infrastructure facilities provided. No laxity should be tolerated both by the citizens and authorities
I do hope that your good self will take the above suggestions in good spirit. With Best Wishes for successful implementation on various civics issues. With respect V.Gopal
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106 | Some suggestions on improving the voter turnout:
1. There is a huge gap between those who are willing to vote and the a)The NGOs can divide their roles among themselves so that there b)The NGO dealing with the job of enrolling the eligible voters who c) The next NGO can organize melas/special counters to receive the d) Once the BMC election nears, an NGO can take up the job of e) At this stage there are omissions in the voters list which have 2. To encourage the voters, the govt has to issue an order urging 3. Now the question comes about those who fail to discharge their a) The Govt may in a phased manner make every citizen to obtain the b) At the initial phase, the people having voter ID may be given 4. Awareness about the background of the candidates is imperative. 5. To reduce the waiting time at the polling booth, the election Regards, Arun C. Bharat |
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107 | My name is Paul. I am new to this board and I live in New Mumbai but am very glad to know the level of awareness on this board regarding the BMC voting. My personal opinion about politicians is that they are corrupt to the core. I believe that through peoples effort we need to install people who are not corrupt and who will devote there elected years in solving the problems faced by citizens but this is a mammoth task and for this the first step is awareness, second comes the communication, communicate with like minded people, spread the message. I have certain suggestions for the criteria for politicians, elected representatives 1. Anyone who wants to get elected should be at least graduate, is not the Government asking for graduation or such qualifications to fill government posts. 2. Candidates should not be corrupt and declare their assets. This asset should be reviewed every year. Apart from these I think many of the criteria are already in place Corruption is one of the root cause of all our trouble, it is Corruption is there because the transactions that we do are not In any case, I would gladly welcome any comments on this. |
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108 | From: “sujatha subraman” <sujatha7000@hotmail.com>
My final inputs facilites found lacking: I think school teachers must be spared election duty as it does not enhance Names of candidates must be printed in English because Mumbai is an
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109 | N.B.H.KULKARNI PHONE: (RES):24936629/24931258
4″SHEELMARIE” (OFF): 22074739/22079975 25 ABDUL GAFFAR KHAN ROAD EMAIL:nbhk@vsnl.net WORLI, MUMBAI-400018 As an Individual NGO, I closely watched Worli Area and I gather it is the Money Power which played an important part in all the Slum Areas. Few Educated People got together, went door to door in their area and pleaded for voting a good person, not corrupt, but educated, and has some experience without being a Corporator for social work, which is already registered in the minds of the residents. This year many white collared who do not normally vote, came out and voted for such good persons but the Slum Voting carried their day and brought the Corrupt and Criminal Elements elected. Let us wait and watch with Magnifying Glass how the Newly Elected Corporators will react with the public as Social Worker. Their performance will be visible. We should be after them for Good Delivery.
N.B.H. KULKARNI N.G.O.
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110 | From: Ramita Mehta
Improving Election Procedure-Role of Media
Dear Vinay, Media’s contribution to whole election was not very satisfactory. In my area, a good majority of people did not know as to how many candidates are contesting, who are they, what is their qualifications, what have they done in their public lives, which party they belong to etc. etc. This information was not easily available. More importantly, also should be made public as to who was the last corporator and what was his/ her or Party’s performance or non-performance during 5 years. ADR?AGNI may grade past Corporators performance.
I think it is important to invite all the candidates of one ward to a common dais and give them 5 minutes to talk on what will they do, if elected and how will they do it. This news can be stored in newspaper’s website and can be seen on TV by viewers/residents just as a movie seen through request if someone wants to be informed. How it can be done, can be left to Media to ponder but it is important to let the residents learn about contesting candidates and make a decisive choice. This will allow people to think before casting their votes as many a times, people do not think of a candidate but party. When people are given information on quality of people, they will also look at the quality of candidates.
Regards, Ramita
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111 | From: gopal v
1. If you did not vote in the BMC Elections, why? What would have made you personally vote? 2. What all can be done to get people to vote?
a.At the outset there should one central voter list and ID number should be given. The same number will continue thought the life of the voter and the same should be surrendered at the time of shifting at the new place for issue of fresh ID but with the same number.
Once request is received ford voter ID after verification the photograph of the applicants could be obtained which should be presented in person and as in the case of Debit/credit cards, the Election Department could generate the ID card rather than waiting for the voter to be photographed by appointed photographer.
b. The election commissioner’ office should be continuously open at each area to facilitate the citizens to approach them for various requests. At the time of election each election centre should have list of voters readily available on computer and on the basis of this, any eligible voter could be guided properly abut the respective polling centre. The ID to be generated could be used as evidence for all purposes rather than the ration card. The ration card identity only for distribution of food grains and other article as provided for eligible citizens. Providing proof of ration card for various purposes should be discontinued. This will also reduced the burden of the rationing department in all the States.
3. What action should be taken to prevent buying of votes? 4. What are you complaints or suggestions regarding: V.Gopal
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112 | From: “waman welinkar” <wamanwelinkar@…>
I did not vote as i was travelling. I think, only if there are two or max . three partys , I know it is not possible but suggestions dont cost Waman Welinkar |
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113 | From: Viraf Godrej
As a response I would suggest that public should be made aware of the clause of 49-0 wherein if somebody feels that all standing for electioon are unworthy then one should exercise the 49-0 clause such that it is made known in the results. Here I read in the papers that many did not vote since they found that no one was good enough. This is not the correct way to send a signal. This 49-0 clause is very much not known even to polling officers and most so not to the general public. Awareness should be created in this channel. |
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114 | Name : mandar bhoir Organisation (if any) : Email : bhoirmandar@… Telephone : 9321691251 Subject : where and how to complaint of corporator or work to be done for people from coporator Message :
I am a common man working in private company. As you know Recently BMC Election was held. I would like guidance or help from you.
A}what and how can i help to people.
B}how and what help should be taken from newlly elected corporator.
C}What can i do if newly elected corporator not response / work properly.
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115 | his is kunika sadanand lall. hopefully we will be able to get some healthy interaction in, as my journey or rather another chapter in my life starts now.
contesting the elections taught me a lot, if only we had a strong group of conscientious citizens in lokhandwala i would have had the courage to stand as an independent, though i do appreciate the faith and belief that the NCP showed in me and my ideology.
i believe no experience goes waste, and this was a learning curve for me.
i am very proud of our success in the vote juhu campaign,it goes to prove that if informed and responsible citizens decide to make a difference and work hard at it they can make the difference.
i am interested in launching a platform called AWRA, (andheri west residents association), if you know of people who are interested in joining this platform. I have already sown the seeds during my campaign. There is lots that needs to be done, we have to get cracking now. thanks kunika sadanand lall
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116 | From: “bhavna_kapadia” <ravnisarg@…>
1. If you did not vote in the BMC Elections, why? What would have I did vote. We have no rights to complain if we can’t spend half an 2. What all can be done to get people to vote? There must be publicity about candidates (what they have done / not 3. What action should be taken to prevent buying of votes? If more people vote, purchased votes will not be able to change 4. What are you complaints or suggestions regarding: – manifestos – are they realistic; how to hold parties to – election code of conduct, time schedule, fairness, etc.? – candidate’s profiles, details, etc? This info was not available to me, and I had to decide to vote – voter’s list accuracy, registration, easy access, etc? B Mahen |
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117 | From: “Gaurang Damani” <damanig@…>
Hi Vinay, I fought the election as an independent candidate. Got 4793 votes and I have the following observations as a candidate: 1. Parties issue tickets to their candidates based on totally arbitrary 2. Independent candidates are given only 10 days to campaign, which makes 3. Money does buy votes, specially in slums. And nothing can be done to 4. Police is not entirely impartial towards all candidates. 5. There is a constant nagging fear that the voting machines are tampered Hope this helps. regards, |
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118 | Somewhere in this forum I read that the City has preferred candidates with a criminal record rather than the clean ones in the just concluded elections to the BMC elections. I PERSONALLY DON’T think this is true, it might be that majority of those who prefer a clean candidate must not have gone for voting and that is the reason why candidates with criminal record got voted or lots of bogus voting must have been done or i think majority of the voters must have been maharashtrian and they must have voted for shiv sena thinking that only shiv sena can safeguard their interest. Any other party will dilute their existence in the state. I feel that from their point of view this is correct also. But I personally feel that any political parties, they have got their own agenda irrespective of peoples preferences. Now this also shows the networking of the candidates/parties with criminal record. This can be achievable by the people who want a clean person to be elected but for this the networking by the NGOs should be very strong. One thing that the NGOs should do is to ensure that in the Let me tell you it is not about less time but about what is priority What I would suggest NGOs is to garner the help of College Sometimes to change things, either on its own or through the efforts I recollect a case of a tyrant boss, who used to shout at his investinstockmarket” <bensonpaul |
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119 | Dear Vinay : as promised, here is my article on ……
ELECTORAL REFORMS by Dr. Leo Rebello
1.. Opinion Polls and Exit Polls which adversely influence the Voters
2.. Electoral Rolls Revision – removing names en masse because of This bureaucratic bungling (deliberate or otherwise) is sabotage of electoral
3.. Form VII-A, see Rule 10(1) which is displayed at every polling booth on
The Existing Columns of Form VII-A/Rule 10(1) ========================================== Sr. Candidate’s Candidate’s The Name Allotted No. Name Address of Party Symbol ==========================================
SUGGESTED REVISION OF FORM VII-A/RULE 10(1) ================================================== Sr. Candidate’s Name Candidate’s Photo Brief biodata Allotted No. and Address and Party’s Name (in 50 words) Symbol ==================================================
(a) This Revised Form VII-A can go on display, 15 days before the election,
(b) The distribution of Form VII-A can be done by the Contesting Candidates and their Agents and the Display of the Form can be ensured by law being the Govt. Notice to be displayed prominently and mandatorily. This form can be projected on the Screen in Theatres, till the last date, within the respective constituencies, as mandatory Govt. Notice.
4.. Political Parties meetings / rallies should be banned during Election time. They should be replaced by Public Meetings of All Contesting Candidates of a Constituency to be brought on a Common Platform. Total Ten Meetings can be held all over the Constituency. These meetings can be organised by the area-specific NGOs of Voters and chaired by the Local Eminent Persons like Doctors, College Principals, Magistrates, Judges, Presidents of local NGOs residing in the Area. Voters Panchayat has done this in the past and the undersigned can guide in this regard.
5.. Individual posters, banners, cut outs, hoardings should NOT be allowed.
6.. The declaration of wealth and assets by every contesting candidate has led to more corruption (instead of curtailing it, which was the aim), unnecessary expenses, additional work on the Election Commission and Reverse Results.
Special Note on Point 6 above : This rule should also be made applicable to
7.. Voting should be made compulsory like in Israel and Australia. The elected representative should get atleast 51% votes, to be called a Representative of People. Presently a winning candidate gets on an average 15 to 20 percent of votes. How can he be called a Representative of People?
8.. Retirement age of 70 years (as on the date of filing the nomination) should be prescribed for all the contesting candidates. From lowest (ZP elections) to the highest (Presidential elections), this rule should be uniform. The idea being, if you can retire Govt. servants at 60, High Court Judges at 62 and Supreme Court Judges at 65, why not the politicians?
9.. Two or three months before the scheduled elections, Legislatures should be dissolved.
(a) National Elections (Election of MPs) should be conducted under the direct (c) Present running projects should NOT be stopped because of stupid interpretation of Code of Conduct, which will become infructuous once new set of rules are in place. (d) Corrupt/partisan bureaucrats should be shunted to non-election duties.
10. Electronic Voting Machines should be checked by an Independent Committee consisting of Experts and representative of Voters Panchayat, to check tampering and other abuse. Voting receipts issued should be tallied against the votes shownas cast in the EVMs. This is called Vote Audit. This high powered committee should
11. Presidential and Vice Presidential Elections should be above party lines.
12. Since President is elected by the Nation (through electoral college),
13. State Governors, like President of India, should be elected by MLAs/MLCs and such an elected Governor should then become the Chief Executive of the State, like the President of India will be the Chief Executive of the Indian Nation. In other words, PM or CM will be replaced by elected President and elected Governor.
14. We cannot gloss over Nomadic Tribes, who have absolutely no voice because most of them do not even feature in the Electoral Rolls. If miniscule Anglo-Indian community can have their MLA/MP, why cannot we have atleast 2 or 3 MPs from amongst Nomadic Tribes and one MLA in every State assembly? They can be selected from amongst their leaders.
15. Finally, the Election Petitions should mandatorily be disposed off within 15 days. It is a mockery to rule at the end of the term that a particular candidate’s election was irregular and then the next candidate declared elected cannot even serve because in the meantime the tenure is over. This delay is travesty of justice.
Some of these Electoral Reforms will require minor Constitutional amendments, which can easily be passed. I call them minor amendments because the basic structure of the Constitution or Governance is not being changed. On the contrary these suggestions are in consonance with the Preamble (which is the face) of the Constitution of India that guarantees Justice, Liberty, Equality and Fraternity to the People.
These simple but effective changes suggested above, if implemented, will go a long way in selecting better candidates which in turn will usher in more democratic elections and better governance. A true democracy will come into existence rather than the present sham democracy.
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